Comments on: Listen Up, Old-School Journalists

By: Tom Abate

Tom Abate — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:27:50 +0000

Thanks for some helpful suggestions that I will try to act on, and pass on.

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By: Holly Huffstutler

Holly Huffstutler — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:29:06 +0000

Ironically, I came on this site to review it for one of the two semi paying writing jobs I’ve been able to find since graduating from Journalism school in December. So thank you so much for the ideas. It gave me alot to think about

By: Jeff Morris

Jeff Morris — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:13:48 +0000

I’m with MCM. What an incredible load of crap. Let’s all jump on the bandwagon, get in touch with the buzzwords, and run around like chickens with our heads cut off doing all the “hard work” necessary to keep up with the “swift, head-spinning transformation” of journalism and writing jobs into non-paying exercises in futility! Yeah, that’ll work.

By: barbara kelley

barbara kelley — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:43:02 +0000

I too understand the frustrations. Reporting should be the priority, rather than promoting it, especially if time is limited. Isn’t it always? that’s why i fear that good journalism can get lost. All about the number of hours in the day.

and of course, being able to pay rent while you do it.

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By: Laura Rich

Laura Rich — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:49:20 +0000

MCM and Clea – I understand all the frustrations. And the good journalism shouldn’t get lost. But the additional promotion, and being part of the conversation and community, is the new reality, and the “hard work” I mentioned. It’s just part of it now. Even for people who have jobs.

By: Allan Hoving

Allan Hoving — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:53:44 +0000

Thanks, Laura, you captured the spirit of the room last week. I’m less worried about journalism (which can be supported by nonprofits as public media) than I am about publishing as a business. A week earlier in DC, we heard about some new models for monetizing online journalism and content. A user-centric model like PayCheckr.com – which lets the reader choose HOW (but not Whether or What to pay) – may offer the best chance of success.

By: MCM

MCM — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:54:50 +0000

That’s $3 per word, not work.

By: MCM

MCM — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:53:54 +0000

All the techniques and branding in the world won’t do anything for your bottom line. As a freelancer for 20 years the going rate has dropped from $3/work to $0. Setting up a corporate model where the work is less important than the comments on it or the delivery method is counter productive. If you’re working on your facebook page, twittering and branding, you’re not researching, verifying and writing. There are only so many hours in a day and all these suggestions that fact as well as the fact that without places that buy a journalists work, it’s all just advertising a product, journalism, that doesn’t exist.

By: Clea Simon

Clea Simon — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:15:00 +0000

Interesting post – though I’m not sure how useful it will be for many in the field.

I’m now freelance, an author as well as a journalist, after 20-plus years in the field and I have a blog, a facebook page. I tweet, etc., because as a freelancer and author, I am the brand. But I am thinking about my husband, who works for a small paper. Over time, his job has grown to the point where he’s working huge hours, often blogging on what can’t fit into the paper. He’s on FB, but his job takes his all. I’m going to pass this along to him, but I can’t see him doing the independent branding – not for lack of will so much as time.

Maybe I can get him to start linking his pieces to his FB page at least…

By: Laura Rich

Laura Rich — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:26:08 +0000

TwoPuttTommy: Correct.