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Love in the Time of Layoff: A Gentle Response to Joe the Trader

By Deborah Siegel ⋅ 11:31 am February 26, 2009 ⋅ 7 comments

mopsIn his post this week, Joe the Trader chronicles a meeting of the He-Man’s Unemployment Club. Roberto is the one who dumps the lunch he brings from home. Joe complains about picking up the iron and recycling the trash. Their girlfriends and wives, they say, spend too much on soy lattes and artisanal cheeses. I do love Joe’s humor—and I truly hope the gecko survives the downturn.

Yet like that New York Times article Joe gripes about, in which a stay-at-home Wall Street wife considers divorcing her unemployed husband because he can no longer deliver coin, Joe falls back on some too-easy stereotypes himself.

Let’s start with the stereotype about how women nag men to do more housework—moreso, perhaps, now that they are home. It is a truth universally acknowledged that women who work outside the house have long worked two shifts, the second being the one they do at home. When our laid-off men grouse about all the work that needs to be done, part of me wants to say: Welcome to our world!

Then there’s the one about how it’s us-versus-them. When Joe turns to his fellow He-Men for advice on how to “manage my new taskmasker,” meaning, his lady, He-Man TJ tells him to nip any concept of being a man-servant in the bud. “You can’t give in or it’s all over…Man-up and never surrender,” he says.

I thought that “manning up” in more modern times might mean treating your partner with R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Acknowledging that you’re in this thing together. Acknowledging that all those yucky housework tasks no one wants to do are not her job to begin with. Unless, of course, that’s the deal you both have struck, like that divorcing couple in the Times.

Let me just say that I can certainly relate to the He-Men’s sense of overwhelm. Though I work full-time, I have become a bit of a Helicopter Wife on the side, and I am not proud of this new identity. My laid-off husband’s list of tasks continues to grow, he is having a hard time keeping up, I get frustrated, and I’m not always able to hold myself in check. Just this week, for instance, after we had our bathtub reglazed so that we can put our apartment on the market (best to sell before we lose on our investment, we figure), the painters forgot to turn the water back on. I couldn’t reach the nozzle, so our toilet couldn’t flush. When Marco came home from his daytime freelance gig hoping to spend some time that night on his design portfolio, I asked him to fix the toilet, and to remove the paper shielding the sink as well. While cleaning up the kitchen, Marco dropped a glass bowl  on the kitchen floor, shattering into a million tiny specks, which he then had to clean up while I held onto the psycho kitten that wanted to lick the floors. Needless to say, my man lost it. And after some chilling out myself, I could definitely see his point.

But that’s exactly my point. These times call for massive doses of empathy. From everyone. Including ex-He-Men for their gals, who probably feel the same way they do about the iron.

But there’s hope for the He-Men. These guys have got heart. TJ admits that trashing his leftovers is pathetic. Joe, in comments, compliments Laura Y for her note about men and women’s relative wages (i.e., the ongoing salary/wage imbalance favors men, so if a female manager makes 80% of what a male manager does, it makes sense to keep the woman if you’re needing to axe one). As Joe himself suggests, one upside of this downturn maybe that at long last there will be an equalization of pay for men and women down the road. Perhaps another will be an equalization, in couples where both partners work, at home.

In the domestic battle between the sexes, it’s time to declare a new truce. Joe, I salute you for addressing this stuff, I wish you the best in your job search, and I’m really serious about the gecko. If you and the He-Men would like to grab soy lattes sometime, please feel free to call me up. My treat.

Deborah Siegel is the author of Sisterhood, Interrupted: From Radical Women to Grrls Gone Wild and creator of the group blog Girl w/Pen. Read more of her Love in the Time of Layoff columns here.

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7 comments for “Love in the Time of Layoff: A Gentle Response to Joe the Trader”

  1. Brava!

    Posted by Jen | February 27, 2009, 9:05 am
  2. [...] So here’s my response to Joe:  “A Gentle Response to Joe the Trader” [...]

    Posted by He Said, She Said at Recessionwire | Girl with Pen | February 27, 2009, 10:18 am
  3. Nice column, D.! Sometime difficult times like these give us the opportunity to move beyond “old” gender roles and stereotypes, because we are already re-negotiating so many other things. So, I agree, time to move beyond the “us-versus-them” as well.

    Posted by Laura S. | February 27, 2009, 11:04 am
  4. Debra,
    Since the pen is mightier than the sword it is with great trepidation that I a responding to your post (and relief that I am writing under a pseudonym). Ok that was a joke.

    This part is serious. I salute your call for empathy and respect. Nothing is more important in any relationship especially in stressful times. Moreover, I had hoped I made it clear in my last column that I am not particularly proud of my adolescent behavior. However, I think you may be making a very incorrect assumption; that I and other men assume that housework is women’s work. In your girl with pen note you write “it drives me nuts because the underlying presumption Joe (who is now at home) and many men seem to make is that all the yucky housework tasks are a woman’s purview”. That is certainly not the case. Housework is yucky no matter if you are a guy or gal. I just don’t like being less autonomous and being reminded of that I am not bringing home a paycheck. I don’t like the fact that I used to manage large trading positions and was a person of consequence at my old firm, but now I have fix the toilet, do dishes and take out recycling. As much as I don’t like these things I certainly didn’t expect my lady to pick up my slack.

    So in your call for empathy and respect, I think it’s important make sure we are listening and seeing one another without preconceptions. That will be true dialog.

    Thanks for your concern for the gecko and I’ll take a cappucino (with an extra shot).

    Best,
    Joe

    PS. If Marco is free next week he can join us for the next He-Mans Unemployment Club meeting.

    Posted by Joe the Trader | February 27, 2009, 2:45 pm
  5. Hi Joe,

    Thanks for your response, and for your shared wish for dialogue. I can totally appreciate this:

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    It’s unmanning. But so, it seems to me, is complaining about housework. Real men iron, real men recycle trash. That said, in my way-too-casual characterization of you over at Girl w/Pen, I confess to being guilty of doing exactly what I rail against: drawing on lazy stereotypes. So seriously, let’s reach across the gender wars, get to know each other, and duke it out over that extra-shot cappucino? And I’ll be sure to tell Marco about The Club.

    All best,
    Deborah

    Posted by Deborah Siegel | February 27, 2009, 3:43 pm
  6. Oops — the part that was supposed to go in the was this:

    “Housework is yucky no matter if you are a guy or gal. I just don’t like being less autonomous and being reminded of that I am not bringing home a paycheck. I don’t like the fact that I used to manage large trading positions and was a person of consequence at my old firm, but now I have fix the toilet, do dishes and take out recycling. As much as I don’t like these things I certainly didn’t expect my lady to pick up my slack.”

    Posted by Deborah Siegel | February 27, 2009, 3:44 pm
  7. Deborah,
    Totally down with a coffee. I am away next week but will be back the week after and think it would be great to meet up. But there is no need to duke it out, I’ve got no axe.
    Joe

    Posted by Joe the Trader | February 27, 2009, 11:32 pm

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